Ottoman Africa in 1914

feeds@yuku.com (Abdul Hadi Pasha II) — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:44:21 GMT

The first reaction you'll have is "AAAHHHH!! OTTO-WANK!!!!" But really, there isn't too much the Ottomans + Egypt + Tunis didn't have in OTL. The great mass of that block is the Sahara, which are colored Ottoman due to acquiring a few scattered oases. There is some slight extension of territory toward the Congo, and Bornu, which had continuous relations with the Ottomans from the 16th c., becomes a protectorate of the empire. Not all of this territory is under strong...

Sufism in Ottoman

feeds@yuku.com (ulus99) — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:03:00 GMT

Turkish words in Polish

feeds@yuku.com (borys68) — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:32:08 GMT

Ahoj!
Abdul Hadi - I met a collegue from secondary and after marriage she has a very unusal family name. You'll know the Polish pronounciation, I suppose - Szulżuk (shuljzuk). The first word which sprang to my mind was, of course, Seldżuk. And yes, she said, her husband's family explained the name as being descendants of said dynasty. I kindly (cough-cough) pointed out that the Seljuks had died out 800 years ago or so, and the founder of the line was probably some POW, and...

Ottoman Balkans Population Map

feeds@yuku.com (Abdul Hadi Pasha II) — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:55:25 GMT

Here is a map of the population of the Ottoman Balkans I painstakingly assembled, which I think is pretty interesting, and opens a lot of AH channels as well.

A few striking points:

1. Muslims were a majority or at least a plurality in a surprising proportion of the Balkans - the only place where they are not a strong presence is the Aegean Islands....

Weakness of Islamic Succession ?

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:57:38 GMT

It strikes me that the succession of the eldest male of the dynasty had some built in problems

True, it prevented a minority or the coming to power of an 18 year old bent on world conquest at just the right time to get the country hideously defeated

BUT did it not mean that every NEW Sultan was basically a middle-aged man with at best usually only a couple of decades of life left ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

Khilafa or Khalifa ?

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:03:16 GMT

www.naqshbandi.org/ottomans/

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

Ottoman Universities

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:36:40 GMT

I tried looking this up through Google but it seems as if the internet has decided to keep the results secret ! I got hints of answers in the Google summation text but when I clicked on the link either its a secure document that an ordinary pleb like me can't get into to, or its not even there at all ! Maybe Ottoman universities evolved to rule the world, and we're ignorant of this fact ?

I had assumed that there would have been universities not just in Istanbul but probably also in...

Ottoman Oil

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:12:47 GMT

I'm trying to work out what developments were already in place for the exploitation of Ottoman oil reserves, and what the likely development would have been in coming decades had not the empire been torn apart ?

This site has some useful info :-

www.globalpolicy.org/secu...antine.htm

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Discovery of oil in 1908 at Masjid-i...

Abbas II's son and brother

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:13:43 GMT

Khedive Abbas II of Egypt (born 1874, ascended 1892) had a son who was recognised as heir, and in the usually incorrect terminology of the time in Western papers, I believe referred to as the Egyptian crown prince. His name is given as

MOHAMMED ABDUL MONEIM
(born 1899)

But what would his regnal name have been ?

I know that Halim, who should have succeeded Ismail as khedive were it not for the change in the law was called Said Halim, so took his second...

1529

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:45:16 GMT

In doing research for my 'The Sport of Kings' timeline (or if you prefer, the 'Mad Timeline' as I initially called it) I have come across the pivotal year of 1529

- A failed Ottoman siege of Vienna

- Khairuddin (various spellings) Barbarossa defeating Spanish naval forces, seizing an island of Algiers and wiping out a force of galleys off Ibiza

Was this a co-ordinated attack ?

How much of the Sultan's vassal was Barbarossa ? I see note that he LATER headed for...

Why did the Ottomans fight Lepanto ?

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:47:48 GMT

My admittedly limited reading so far doesn't seem to explain what this huge force of Ottoman galleys, sailors and soldiers was actually doing or intending to do ? Was it simply reacting to Christian aggression, or did it have its own objectives in mind ? Like, was it headed for somewhere or simply intent on intercepting a Christian fleet that was headed for somewhere ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

The Dodecanese

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:12:40 GMT

I guess this is more Turkish than Ottoman, but since Italy seized them off the Ottomans I will put it here

I was wondering why when Italy was defeated in WW2, the Dodecanese did not revert to Turkey but somehow ended up as Greek possessions ?

Grey Wolf

Young Turks owed inspiration to 1905 Russian Revolution ?

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:42:41 GMT

In his intriguing book "What Is History ?" E H Carr in a round-about sort of way implies that the 1905 Russian Revolution did not spark off imitations in Europe (per se) but DID in Asia, first in Persia, then with the Young Turks then in China.

The problem is that I don't know if he is speaking figuratively, as in seeing these as part of a 'wave' so to speak, or if he means that Russia provided the IDEA of revolution and that without the events of 1905 then the other three...

Realistic relationship between a vassal Crimea and Ottomans

feeds@yuku.com (resurrection wolf) — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:27:17 GMT

I'm looking at how this relationship would have likely prospered into the 19th century if Catherine The Great had not stripped the Crimea away from its khans. How would the relationship between the Crimea and the Ottoman Empire have developed over time ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

New WWI Ottoman Book by Erickson

feeds@yuku.com (Abdul Hadi Pasha II) — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:57:16 GMT

Population question

feeds@yuku.com (Alikchi) — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:32:23 GMT

Even though this forum seems dead, this looks like the best place to ask this...

Can anyone direct me to some Ottoman population statistics, around the turn of the century, that break down the different internal groups?

I do this because I'm working on an AH sim version of the Ottoman Empire that retains everything pre-1914 plus the Arabian Peninsula, Greece, Eastern Roumelia, Serbia and Albania, and I'm trying to...

Arabs in Operation Unicorn

feeds@yuku.com (TomB1) — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:24:27 GMT

Given the developments to date in UT esp. those in Mesopotamia what would be the likely impact on:

1] Mubarak the Great (Kuwait)

2] Abdullah al'Thani (Qatar)

3] Abdul Aziz ibn al-Saud

I am interested in both short term and long term consequences.

Ottoman Maps

feeds@yuku.com (miketr) — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:43:11 GMT

Anyone know of a source for good maps of the Ottoman Empire in Europe around 1885? Looking for something that shows railroads in particular.

Michael

Just my $0.02 worth

Ottoman Naval OOB in 1915 for "Shadow of God".

feeds@yuku.com (theduchessofzeon) — Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:11:45 GMT

This is a hypothetical I worked up based on a POD in advance of the Russo-Turkish War. It's fairly speculative, and may overstate Ottoman abilities--then again, it may not. It's based in part on one that Abdul Pasha did for an online sim a long time ago. The rationale behind it is that in "Shadow of God" the Ottoman Empire of 1915 needs extensive naval forces to transport troops to disparate regions of a much larger Empire with a huge coastline, where railroad infrastructure...

best biographer? - Mango or Kinross?

feeds@yuku.com (Rodlox) — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:21:43 GMT

If I may ask, which of the two is better than the others, when it comes to writing biographies?: Mango or Kinross?

just wondering.

thanks.

Ottoman History Discussion